Sunday, February 28, 2016

Evidence that Ayodhya masjid was Sri RAM TEMPLE

Archaeologist K.K. Muhammed- Excavation proofs say Babri masjid was actually a Hindu Temple in past

This shocking Truth is exposed by Dr KK Muhammed, former Regional Director of Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) that Babri Masjid was actually a Hindu Temple, which was demolished and then refurbished into a mosque during Mughal rule.

He further adds that leftist historians of India like Romila Thapar, irfan habib, akhtar Ali, Bipin chandra, S gopal and many others gave False logics such as there were no historical accounts of demolition of Temple and Hindu/buddhist/ Jain cultural centres in and around Ayodhya before 19th century. While renowned historian MGS Narayanan fully agree with Muhammed, Left centric historians like Dr KN Panikkar dubbed the arguments raised by the author as baseless.

The shocking truth that was found in the Babri Masjid excavation

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Sanskrit faded from being a global language

How Sanskrit faded from being a global language and what shattered the global Vedic culture.

By Stephen Knapp

Sanskrit was an internationally known language even up to the time of the 15th century, this is corroborated by a footnote on page 28, Volume One, of Marco Polo's Memoirs. It explains that in the village of Kenyung Kwan, 40 miles north of Peking, beyond the pass of Nankau, under a, archway, two large inscriptions were engraved in 1345 CE in six languages, including Tibetan, Mongol, Bashpath, Uighur, Chinese, one unknown language, and Sanskrit. Furthermore, another footnote on page 29 of the same volume explains that the annals of the Ming dynasty in 1407 CE mentions the establishment of a linguistic office for diplomatic purpose. This required the study of eight language, including Sanskrit.

So, Sanskrit was an important language. We can see that the farther we go back in time the wider and more frequent was it's use. With so many languages displaying words that derive from Sanskrit, or are corrupted forms of it, we can understand that Sanskrit was the primary language from time immemorial up to the era of the Mahabharata War, So why did Sanskrit go from a global language to one that is presently sparsely used?

It would seem that the Mahabharata War at Kurukshetra (c.3138 BCE) caused the global, united Vedic administration to break up into factions and fragments. The war caused many once united portions of world society to take sides to either support the Pandavas or the Kurus. As explained in the Mausal Parva section of the Mahabharata, after the heavy carnage of the war, masses of people had to flee the area or take refuge in new and unfamiliar areas of the world. This caused the breakdown of the world-wide Vedic social, educational, and administrative system which helped usher in the chaos of the age of Kali-yuga.

As people fled to other areas of the world and splintered away from Vedic society, they, nonetheless, carried with them remnants and memories if the Vedic rituals and customs, as well as speech and language they once knew and practised. However,bereft accompanied it, after many generations of this, the forgetfulness of the ancient ways led them to speak in progressively more distorted forms of Sanskrit and develop^their own peculiar regional forms of speech, customs, and mannerisms. Therefore, people in the British Isles, the Mediterranean, China, Japan, etc., all evolved their own style of vocabulary and remnants of Vedic customs. This is how various forms of language emerged out of Sanskrit, and why many languages and customs and religions have a thread of similarities running through them. The idea of some scholars that Sanskrit, Latin, and Greek are descendants of some previous language in unfounded and simply speculation.

With the dispersal of large masses of people there was the formation of regional states that became isolated and divided, which took the shape of Syria, Assyria, Babylonia, Mesopotamia, Egypt, China, etc, Mr.P.N.Oak provides an interesting explanation in this regard in his book, Some Missing Chapters of World History (p.8): “Like the Vedic empire splitting into regional bits, Vedic society too broke into diverse cults and communities. Consequently their names are all Vedic Sanskrit. Thus, Syria is Sur, Assyria is Asur, Babylonia is Bahubalaniya, Mesopotamia is Mahishipattaniya, etc., while Stoics were Staviks (people given to meditation), Essenes were devotees of Essan(Lord Shiva), Samaritans were Smartas (those whose lives were regulated by the Smriti Vedic texts), Sadduceans were Sadhujans (monks), Malencians were Mlencchas, Philistines were followers of Vedic sage Pulasti, Casseopeans were followers of sage Kashyap, etc.”

This is why so many of the Vedic symbols, or distortions of such, are still important or highly recognized in various parts of the world. For example, the Aryan symbol of the Swastika is a famous sign for auspiciousness and god luck, which was later distorted into a symbol of a different meaning by Hitler and the German army. The Shakti-Chakra or Sri Yantra was held sacred and turned into the sic-pointed Star of Solomon by Jewish people.

Furthermore, we can easily see the many similarities in ancient architecture all over the world. The Vedic culture was not interested in conquering foreign people into submission, but was interested inupgrading people everywhere. Thus, they also spread the ancient science of constructing buildings. Many of the ancient temples and stone mansions we find today are built to the specifications of the Vedic Shilpa Shastras. The reason for the similarity in buildings of the Indians, Iranians, Arabs, Mongols, and even in the Americas is explained in this way.

One western author who also reached this conclusion is E.B.Havell. In his book, Indian Architecture-- Its Psychology, Structure and History (pp.1&2), he writes that all historic architecture is absolutely Hindu (Vedic) in style, concept, and execution. Havell also wrote about the false idea that the beauty and precision of Indian building art must have come from outside India. “All these misconceptions have their root in one fixed idea. The belief that true aesthetic feeling has always been wanting in the Hindu mind and that everything really great in Indian art has been suggested or introduced by foreigners...This persistent habit of looking outside of India for the origins of Indian art must necessarily lead to false conclusions.”

Interestingly, the principles of Vedic architecture can be found a lot closer to home than many people may think P.N.Oak describes in World Vedic Heritage (p.390) that the white house in Washington D.C. Also follows the principles of Vedic architectural design. In the age old tradition, the king's palace was designated as the Dhavala Gruha, which literally translates into White House. The design for such a house is described in two famous Sanskrit classics, the Harsha Charita and Kadambari. Both texts were written by the Sanskrit pundit Banabhatta 1300 years ago during the reign of Harshavardhan. “The traditional Vedic features enjoined for the Hindu Chief Executive's Dhaval Gruha have been reflected in every detail in the White House in Washington D.C and the U.S.Embassy building in New Delhi.”

So, Why can we not remember or find more sources of documented history of our connection with a global Vedic culture? Why do most histories of any country tend to fade out after going back 2500 years? There are several reasons, some of which we will mention later. But one reason is that before the process of fragmentation began after the Mahabharata War at Kurukshetra in 3138 BCE, all regions of the world had not developed a separate identity from the global Vedic Aryan culture. Thus, there was not a need to record a separate regional history other than what was already recorded as a global history, as we presently find in many of the ancient Vedic histories known as the Ithihasas, or Puranas. This is one of the reasons why most regional histories tend not to go back farther in the time 2500 to 3000 years ago. Even the longest regional histories hardly to go back farther than 3000 BCE, the time of Mahabharata War.

Worldwide remnant of Sanskrit

Worldwide remnant of Sanskrit

By Stephen Knapp

The basis of all accomplishments of the Vedic culture is its literature. Max Mueller, in his book India – What Can It Teach Us(p.21), says that, “Historical records (of the Hindus) extend in some respects so far beyond all records and have been preserved to us in such perfect and such legible documents, that we can learn from them lessons which we can learn nowhere else and supply missing links.”

In Volume I (p.163) of Chips From A German Workshop, Max Mueller continues his thoughts on the importance and primordiality of Vedic literature: “Sanskrit no doubt has an immense advantage over all other ancient languages of the East. It is so attractive and has been so widely admired, that it almost seems at times to excite a certain amount of feminine jealousy. We are ourselves Indo-Europeans. In a certain sense we are still speaking and thinking Sanskrit; or more correctly Sanskrit is like a dear aunt to us and she takes the place of a mother who is no more.”

That the entire ancient literature of India is composed in Sankskrit provides compelling evidence that Sanskrit was the only language spoken and understood thousands of years ago. Not only that, but many other texts at the time, along with grants, orders, ordinances, religious prayers and sacraments, were also all in Sanskrit.

Scholar H.H.Wilson wrote in his Preface to his translation of the Vishnu Purana, “The affinities of the Sanskrit language prove a common origin of the now widely scattered nations amongst whose dialects they are traceable, and render it unquestionable that they must all have spread abroad from some central spot in that part of the globe first inhabited by mankind according to the inspired record.”

Let us take a brief look at additional evidence to help verify the idea that Sanskrit was the original language of the world, and that it is connected with numerous countries and cultures.

The fact of the matter is that remnants of Sanskrit can be found worldwide in practically any language. Mr.P.N.Oak provides a great comparison of this in his book, Some Blunder of Indian Historical Research (p.277). This is like a brief overview which we will elaborate further in another chapter. He explains that, “Latin and Persian are dialects of Sanskrit. Greek has borrowed a lot from Sanskrit. French and English are full of Sanskrit words, roots and speech forms. The use of a prefix 'a' for the negative as in 'amoral' is Sanskrit. The termination stry as in dentistry [and] chemistry, derives from the Sanskrit word Shastra meaning science or branch of knowledge. Words fashioned roots like dants (as in 'dental, dentistry'), mrutyu (as in mortal, mortuary, morgue, post mortem) are all Sanskrit. Vesture for apparel in the Sanskrit word vastra. Common words like 'door' (dwar), 'name' (nama) are all Sanskrit.

Numerals like two(dwi), three(troika, tripartite, tripod) is based on the Sanskrit word tri. Four (chatwar), five(panch in Sanskrit), gives us such words as Pentagon, pentecostal. 'Gon' is the Sanskrit Kon meaning angle. Six(shat in Sanskrit), seven(sapta), eight(astha), nine(vava), ten(dasha) gives words like decimel, decade. 'Christ-Mas' is really the month of Christ. In Sanskrit a month is called as mas. The Sanskrit root pada meaning foot leads to words like biped, centipede, pediatrics and tripod. 'Pedestrian' is almost a pure Sanskrit word which is explained in Sanskrit as padais charati iti padacharaha. The root bhara meaning weight gets formed in Latin into 'barus' and gives us words like barometer. The word naktam, meaning night in Sanskrit, has led to words like night, or 'naucht' in German and 'nocturnal.' The English words pedestal retains its almost original Sanskrit form pada-sthala. In French, the words 'roi, rene, deu, genou, naga' meaning king, queen, God, knees, and cobra respectively are all Sanskrit words. The river Nile is the corrupt form of the Sanskrit word neel, namely 'blue.' That is why it is called the blue Nile. In Greenland the Sanskrit word Sambandhi is used in its original Sanskrit sense meaning a relation. In Africa the word simba meaning a lion is the Sanskrit word simha. The Latvian language is based on Panini's Sanskrit grammar. Their capital riga is the very root we find in the word Rig-Veda. Pushtun the language of Afghanistan, is a dialect of Sanskrit as is Siamese, the language of Thailand. In German, the declension of nouns is based almost four-square on the Sanskrit pattern.

“The sequence of week days from Monday to Sunday is followed the word over as laid down by Sanskrit-speaking Indians. In the ancient world the new year began about March-April as in India and Persia even now. The names September, October, November, and December derive from the Sanskrit words Saptama, Asthtama, Navama and Dashama, i.e. the 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th (months). The deity 'Mitras' was worshipped in the ancient world is the 'Mitra' or the Sun God of the Hindus. Scandinavia is the abode of warriors (Skand Nabhi in Sanskrit) i.e. of the Vikings.” I might also add that Skand comes from the name of the warrior son of the Vedic Lord Shiva, Skanda. And the Scandinavians were the mariner descendants of the Vedic Kshatriya warriors who worshipped Skanda.

In regard to Latin being a dialect of Sanskrit, Godfrey Higgins, in his book The Celtic Druids (p.61), makes a similar conclusion that for some people would be quite controversial. He explains, “There are many objections to the derivation of the Latin from the Greek. Latin exhibits many terms in a more rude form than Greek...Latin was derived from Sanskrit.”

In any case, not only are there many words connected with or derived from Sanskrit, there are many places around the world that also reflect their Vedic connection. For example, the places that end with the suffix sthan, which is the Sanskrit stan, reflect their Vedic connection as found in Baluchistan, Afghanistan, Kurdistan, Kafiristhan, Turkisthan, Bhabulisthan, Kazaksthan, and others, such as Arvasthan which corrupted to Arabia. Countries like like Syria and Assyria show their Sanskrit connection through the Sura and Asura communities mentioned in the Vedic epics. Those countries also spoke Sanskrit until they lost their connection with Indian or Vedic culture. Cities in England show their Sanskrit connection with their corrupted form of puri turned to 'bury' as in Shrewsbury, Ainsbury, and Waterbury.

Even the name “England” comes from the Sanskrit word Angla-Sthan. Herewith we can see that the suffix “land” also shows a corrupted form of Sanskrit and that places such as Deutschland, Greenland, or Iceland, show a Sanskrit connection. For example, the name Deutschland is derived from the Sanskrit Daitya Sthan, Daityas were an ancient, Sanskrit speaking people. They were known as Daityas for being descendants of the woman Diti, as explained in the Vedic texts.

The Caspian Sea and the region of kashmir also derive theur names from Sanskrit being names after the great sage Cashyap, or Kashyapa Muni. Kashyapa was the ancestor of the Daityas who figures prominently in the Vedic epics. The Daityas were also referred to as the Danuv community. The Danube River, being a river that flowed through the land of the Daityas, or Danuvs, was later known as the Danube. Danu was one of the primary goddesses of the Celts, and was the wife of Kashyapa Muni.

Furthermore, the Red sea is so named because that is merely the translation of the Sanskrit Lohit Sagar as was mentioned in the Ramayana when Rama's emissaries were searching for Sita. Lohit means red. This is similar to the name “White Sea,” which is a mere translation of the Sanskrit Ksheer Sagar. We will see more this kind of linguistic, geographical, and archaeological evidence in the coming postings.

(Source: Proof of Vedic Culture's Global Existence)

India and Sanskrit: The source of world literature

India and Sanskrit: The source of world literature

By Stephen Knapp

Sanskrit, if it is the original language since the creation, is also the source of world literature. Laura Elizabeth Poor observes in her book, Sanskrit and Its Kindred Literature-Studies in Comparative Mythology, “I propose to write about the literature of different nations and different centuries. I wish to show that this literature is not many but one; that the same leading ideas have arisen at epochs apparently separated from each other; that each nation however isolated it may seem, is, in reality, a link in the great chain of development of the human mind; in other words to show the unity and continuity of literature...The histories of Phoenicians, Cartheginians, Romans or Greeks, were so many detached pieces of information...But the moment the mind realizes...that one nation is connected with all others, its history becomes delightful and inspiring...And it is to the Sanskrit language that we owe this entire change...Sanskrit was a spoken language at the of Solomon, 1015 B.C., also of Alexander, 324 B.C.”

In this same line of thought, it has been determined that the Sanskrit Rig-Veda is the oldest piece of literature in the world. Reverend Morris Philip, in his book The Teaching of the Vedas (p.213), concludes, “After the latest researches into the history and chronology of the book of Old Testament, we may safely now call the Rigveda as the oldest book not only of the Indian community, but of the whole world.”

A.A.Macdonell provides a few more details in his book, India's Past, about how various literature in the world are all connected. In fact, he explains that many of the world's fairy tales come from India. “The history of how India's fairy tales and fables migrated from one country to another to nearly all the people of Europe and Asia, and even to African tribes from their original home in India, borders on the marvellous. It is not a case of single stories finding their way by word of mouth...from India to other countries, but of whole Indian books becoming through the medium of translations the common property of the world...many fairy tales current among the various people can be traced to their original home in India.”

When we begin to compare the ancient legends and stories of one country with another, and one time period with another, we can recognize how similar and yet different they are. The conclusion is that they had to have come from one basic source, one people that later became divided and spread out over a wide area. Each part of this society must have brought with them into the new lands their old legends that were once common to all. Many of these stories were later shaped and altered according to the place they lived, and the natural aesthetic and artistic preferences they acquired, while the primary legends have been the most likely to maintain their storyline. Though various mythologies may have similarities, the most common traits can be seen between any of them and the Vedic traditions. These kinds of similarities between these myths and the Vedic legends makes it clear that the Vedic tradition is the original from which all others are derived.

An example of this is the Indian classic Ramayana, from India the Ramayana has travelled to many other countries who now claims their own versions of the epic. Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, even Jamaica and Africa have versions of the Ramayana that have slight differences from the Indian Ramayana. Thus we can see how this early Sanskrit literature travelled throughout the world and became local versions of what originated in India. The next section further corroborates this point.

Sanskrit in Croatia: From Sarasvati to Hrvati

Sanskrit in Croatia: From Sarasvati to Hrvati
By James Cooper

For most of the Croatian people (or as they call themselves, Hrvati) when it comes to defining their origins and tracing their ancient roots they turn towards the land of Iran and Persia. According to academia the name Hrvat comes from Hrovat which comes from the Slavic Horvat which originates from the Indo/Slavic Harvat and which is ultimately traced to Persia and the name Harahvaiti.
Harahvaiti however, is the corrupted name of Sarasvati, the great Vedic Goddess, the Mother of Sanskrit, the great river of the Rig Veda and the Goddess of learning. The Persians had a tendency to replace a Sanskrit ‘S’ with a Persian ‘H’, and so the word Haravaiti is actually Sarasvati.
This tendency can be seen in their word for ‘week’, hapta, which is in the Sanskrit sapta meaning week. Their name for the ‘Sun’,Hvar, is the Sanskrit Svar meaning the same. In the Avestan we find the seven rivers of the Aryan land are described as hapta hendu, an obvious corruption of sapta sindhu, the seven rivers of India. Finally there are the rivers of Iran, Haravaiti and Harayu which are the Vedic rivers of Sarasvati and Sarayu. And so if the name of Croat (Hrvat) comes from Harvat and this in turn comes from Harahvaiti, we must conclude that the source is Sarasvati.
Sarasvati is one of many words which are cognate with the Croatian language.
Med is a Croatian word meaning honey and this comes from the Sanskrit Madhu, a name for Krsna. The Russian Medvedev and the Croatian Medvjed both mean ‘honey eater’ a name for the bear and they both come from the Sanskrit Madhava, a name for Krsna which means ‘he who intoxicates like honey’. Below are some of the many similarities which are shared between the Sanskrit and Croatian language.
According to academia, the oldest recorded name Harvat, was found in the Mittani/Hurrian documents spoken by King Tusratta some 3500 years ago. In the documents he refers to his Kingdom as Huravat Ehillaku.
We should note, however, that the King who spoke this 3,500 year old inscription was a Vedic/Hindu King, Tusratta being a corruption of Dasaratha, dasa being Sanskrit for ‘ten’ and ratha Sanskrit for ‘chariot’.
King Dasaratha, according to academia, was one of many Vedic Kings who ruled the Kingdom of Mittani. The chronology of these Mittani Kings are as follows: Kirta - Suttarna - Baratarna - Parsatatar - Saustatar - Rtadharma - Suttarna II - Artashumara - Dasaratha - Mativasa - Sattuara - Vashasatta - Sattuara II.
These names are all Sanskrit/Vedic. Suttarna is Sanskrit for ‘good son’; Dasaratha is Sanskrit for ‘ten chariots’; Parsatatar is a variation of Sanskrit Parasu, ‘he who rules with the axe’; Mativasa is Sanskrit for ‘the abode of prayer’; Ritadharma is Sanskrit for ‘the law of dharma’ and Artashumara is Sanskrit for ‘the winds of righteousness’.
It is an academic fact that the Kingdom of Mittani was ruled by Vedic Kings. Here we note that the capital of Mittani was called Vasukhani. Vasu being Sanskrit for ‘wealth’ and Khani means ‘mine’ – ‘a mine of wealth’. So if the roots of Croatian civilization are intimately connected with Iran and Persia, and in particular Mittani and the Hittites, one should take into consideration the Vedic influence behind it all.
The Croatian name for God is Bog which once again comes from the Sanskrit Bhaga, meaning Bhagavan, ‘the supreme Lord’. We see a nice example of this in the capital of Iraq, Bhagdad, Bhag being the Sanskrit Bhaga and dad coming from the Sanskrit dadati meaning ‘gift’ – ‘the gift of God’. Below are more similarities between the Sanskrit and Croatian languages.
Read more: http://www.sutrajournal.com/sanskrit-in-croatia-from-sarasv…

Sunday, February 21, 2016

Gaytri mantr

गायत्री मंत्र तथा नाडी एवं चक्र प्रणाली--------

1. पृथ्वी माता तथा मानव शरीर पांच तत्वों से बने हैं.
2. ऊर्जा को तीन रुपों में यानि सतो गुण (सकारात्मक ऊर्जा), रजो गुण(नकारात्मक ऊर्जा) तथा रजो गुण (तटस्थ ऊर्जा).
3. ये सभी नाडी तथा चक्र प्रणाली द्वारा काबू होते हैं.
4. तीनों ऊर्जा को काबू करने के लिए ऊर्जा चक्रों को तत्वों के आधार पर विभाजित किया.
5. नाडी केवल रीड की हडडी वाले चक्रों में से जाती है क्योंकि वे जुडे हुए हैं. हाथ तथा पांव के चक्र अपूर्ण होते हैं क्योंकि दोनो अलग-२ हैं.
6.  इष्ट्देवी, इष्ट्देव, माता, पिता ,पति, पत्नि तथा गुरु व्यक्ति होते हैं जिन पर हम हर वस्तु के लिए निर्भर होते हैं.इसलिए ये हमसे ऊपर आते हैं.
7. बाकि सभी पांचवें चक्र में आते हैं.
8. गायत्री मंत्र महामंत्र है क्योंकि इसमें सभी चक्र आते हैं.
9. आज का गायत्री मंत्र अपूर्ण है.पूर्ण गायत्री मंत्र के लिए देखे प्राचीन भारतीय विज्ञान.

Thursday, February 18, 2016

Palmistry

What do markings on your palms say?
What do markings on your palms say?
Markings on your palm reveal a lot about your personality. Let us find out about what different markings mean.

2. Transverse marks

Transverse marks
A transverse line unfortunately means evil and cunning. It means that the person, even if intelligent will use his intellect for tact and deceit. Beware of such people.

3. Vertical markings

Vertical markings
If found on the mounts of fingers, vertical markings are considered to be really auspicious. The person with such markings is usually a positive person who does everyone good.

4. Vertical markings

Vertical markings
In addition, vertical markings also makes way for good friendships and business decisions between people who have them.

5. The grille

The grille
The grille, even though not an evil marking is a sign of weakness. The bearer of such a marking will often find his energies being drained out and he might be emotionally or mentally vulnerable.

6. The cross

The cross
Crosses often denote troubles, disappointment and danger and the bearer is considered to be someone with bad behaviour.

7. The cross

The cross
A person with a cross sign is also likely to indulge in superstition and the occult sciences. He might use people for his gain.

8. The star

The star
Usually a positive sign, the star marking denotes brilliance and happiness in a person's life. However, with brilliance comes a price. The bearer of this sign may sometimes have to let go off his near and dear ones on his road to fame.

9. The star

The star
A star on the mount will signify success, but it might wash away the bearer's other qualities. Tread with caution.

10. The island

The island
The Island is always a negative sign. It usually denotes a hereditary illness or heavy emotional stress.

11. The square

The square
The square is almost always a beneficial symbol. It denotes a special significance when covering an area that is experiencing turmoil, such as chained, broken or dotted lines.

12. The square

The square
In the above case, difficulties will arise (due to broken lines), but due to the presence of the square, the bearer will overcome them.

13. The circle

The circle
The circle is a rare marking in palmistry. It is usually considered evil, except if on a mount. However, if it touches other lines, it can bring misfortune to the bearer.

14. The triangle

The triangle
The triangle is a positive sign, only when found on its own, not composed of intersecting lines. It denotes mental flourish and success.

15. The triangle

The triangle
However, if found alongside a line, it will naturally take on significance dependent upon the line. The triangle brings in balance to the bearer.

16. The spot

The spot
The spot is usually a sign of a malady and may denote a chronic or life-threatening disorder.

17. The trident

The trident
The trident is a powerful sign and even eclipses all other markings! It brings in good fortune and brilliance to the bearer.

18. The tassel

The tassel
A tassel marking deteriorates with age, so it is in fact the sign of an individual's health. If the marking has suddenly become very light, it means the bearer will be struck with a life-threatening disease.

19. Drooping off shoots

Drooping off shoots
These lines depict disappointment in life. The bearer is usually depressed or unable to face challenges in life.

20. Rising off shoots

Rising off shoots
The inverse of drooping off shoots, this marking denotes inspiration, fruition, and happiness. The bearer of this sign will turn out to be charming and good with words.

21. Sister lines

Sister lines
Sister lines support the line along which they follow. Sister lines are usually guiding lines and follow the traits of the lines they are associated with. So for your sister lines to be powerful, you need to check your other lines first.